Talk:Dragon Gunfire's Promotional Trial: Silence of the Effervescent Iron/@comment-26595384-20151102053128/@comment-5635078-20151102070726

Let me just point out the problem with this. Light is not physical. Fire and Light are both in pure energy like state, which is why fire and light can either clash or cancel out each other. SOLID matter such as Earth, Metal, Ice, etc. along with physical attacks such as punches and kicks should either phase through or get burned. Again, enough with the plasma man lol. Fire cannot produce Plasma. Now quoting the article itself, "He has mastered his magic to levels that allow him to turn his body into flames, allowing attacks to harmlessly pass through him, but this does not work on reflex, so sneak attacks will work.His body can also be damaged by superior flames, such as God Slayer Flames. Also remaining as flames constantly drains his magical energy, making it unwise to constantly be flames", there's no mention of magic cancelling attacks. Only that God Slayers can hurt him. Juvia's water body is rare and is more like an innate ability due to her mastery of water; which mind you, isn't regular water magic. Light has more wave nature than particle which kind of says, "no. Light is not solid".

You get what I am saying? "Energy cancels out energy". Juvia in her water form would be vulnerable against Natsu's fire and she might actually die. Actually she can even die if Gray were to freeze her while she is in her water form. We are not Logia users, stop using One Piece logic lol. OP and FT do not go together. Juvia is still vulnerable to pain and suffering in her water form, Mel proved that. Similarly, you have to add several weaknesses to his fire form. Just saying that it's magic consuming isn't enough.

Allow me to point out a couple of other things, Second Gen users use Dragon Force by simply overexerting their Dragon Lacrima. By drawing more amount of magic at a faster rate. It's more like Drive and less like Dragon Force. So, it's a lot weaker. Having so many DF techniques for a 2nd Gen who trained on his own, doesn't make sense.

Odin wouldn't be able to train him either due to it being a rare and completely unrelated form of magic. Again, switching dual modes already drain a "true slayer" mentally and physically. Imagine what would it do to a pseudo-dragon slayer such as Matthew. It wasn't wise to switch like that because in the aftermath, Matthew would be left in a drained and helpless state. A couple of attacks and he's done for. Specially because he was been recklessly using his magic.