User blog comment:Perchan/Concerning Futuristic Storylines/@comment-1759748-20140920195027/@comment-3061966-20140920214122

"Oh Zico, I do NOT give a damn about how long you were an admin. The two users I hate on wikia as a whole have been admins for, I believe five or six years now...and they're dumber than boxes of rocks, in my personal opinion. If you think that "I've been an admin for four years" means anything, well congrats, you now know the reason I HATE people who brag about having a few extra buttons and act entitled once they get the spot."

Fire, that is not what I meant.....

Dude, I meant my time has shown me that this wouldn't hurt anything here. People, since the start of this wiki, have followed this thinking. It's just that now it's being put into actual words.

This has nothing to do with entitlement. You completely took that statement the wrong way.

"And you wanna know why fans delve into science despite the FT canon being magic-based? Because we never see it. It's fun to explore, which is, last time I checked, kinda the reason most people write fanfiction. To do things the author didn't, or to take a wonderful stroll through the realms of impossible, at least as far as we're told to be impossible."

Indeed, I very much agree. But lines must be drawn to how far they can take that exploration.

"My problem with this rule is the same with any rule admins impose that has no practical use except to force the wiki to grow according to their own worldviews (Exactly why me, Per, and a few others left Bleach Fanon, actually, which is why her supporting anything remotely like this makes me nausiated). Just because you think it's for the best, you're actually stifiling creativity for no actually useful reason. "

Huh, how is it not practical to stop people from going overboard? You're well aware of how we've made sure to keep people from losing it with the DS stuff, so why would you have an issue with us keeping people from turning this into a sci-fi circus? Sensible limitations are necessary for any fanon wiki and these don't call for much at all.

And I keep seeing this stifling creativity claim. It hasn't stifled anyone since this wiki was made by the founder, not one. It's been the unwritten rule everyone, including you, followed.

Side-note: your mad scientist mention would make a fun storyline if anything.

"There's no way to alter something as clear cut and immutable as "We don't want a technological advancement for over 400 years hur dur." without still looking like a bunch of inbred selfish asshats who try to control the entire damn wiki. Admins shouldn't make new, stupid rules, when the biggest problem you STILL have are the friggin Dragon Slayer fetishists roaming around who thing they need the overhyped nonsense that only Natsu and co. can provide."

AGAiN, I have told Aha more than once and it's written there, advancement is not banned. Going overboard and turning this into Ghost in the Shell with magic and dragons is banned. I'll repeat: "you can make advances in airships, magical weapons, magical vehicles, lacrima usage, and that sort of stuff. It's effectively stagnant in that while there is innovation, there isn't enough overall change in the human condition that makes it unrecognizable from the canon manga. It means we won't see fighter jets or cities like NYC, or satellites and space ships going to Earth Land's moon. Means we won't need to go about banning nuclear weapons being made, since that wouldn't make any sense."

I never made the rule since it never came up and people always followed this thinking, but I decided to nip it in the bud when a user recently made a future-based story -- though hers was basically in line with this and was fine. Are you saying I should wait till stuff gets out of hand to make proper rules to keep people from overdoing it?

Making rules/laws isn't something that is done completely from the start. As the entity those rules are for evolves, its' rules will expand to meet any issues that were unforeseen earlier. We didn't have DS restrictions at first until new users flooded in making crazy stuff, then we adapted. The process of rule-making (let's just call it that) is an adaptive one and for the long game.

"Besides, if this were to go into effect,, you'd have to delete Per and Aha's stories, which hilarously have contradicted this rule before it was even a thing."

Why would I? I already assured HB to not worry about his stuff. I don't care about robots, those are fine. Energy swords based off lacrima? That's fine. Magical armor with an arsenal of multiple weapons and lacrima technology? That is fine too. They work with canon. Have you ever seen me complain about these things? They are not Gundam, though given what Aha said, apparently there is some to watch out for.

"It's just stupid, pointless, and really...not important to the wiki as a whole. Your efforts are better served elsewhere rather than enforcing something like this.

Just my two cents, take it or leave it"

I've already shown that it is not stupid or pointless. But, if it needs to loosened up and it obviously does....Give suggestions, for God's sake, actually give suggestions to make it better. I don't understand your anger, but I can see that you misunderstand some things.

You still have yet to answer the question I posed to you: how would you change and loosen this up while preventing people bringing in satellites, space ships, fighter jets, sci-fi type cities, and so on?

I've already seen your two cents and have asked for actual suggestions now. I'm literally asking for feedback to make a better, looser, and fairer rule. And you continue to reject giving a single one, yet I'm sure you have some ideas.