User talk:Twilight Despair 5

There ya go
There ya go lol. Also so it's basically elemental magics with some differences, you'd be better off just making your own version of the main four elements. Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 15:11, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Is the second point inspired by Gold Experience, perhaps? :P Other than that, go ahead. Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 23:28, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

having her be the healing type would be cool, I like it. --Lady Komainu (talk) 01:43, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Spatial Magic
Yo Twi, that magic I was talking about, first off I have yet to concretely decide upon a name for it yet, so far I've been comfortable with referring to it as Zone, but it's going to be the ultimate form of spatial magic available, a lost magic of course, that will trump any other form of spatial magic known. I'll let you decide once I get the page up. --Otaku-ō (Talk ) 18:42, May 17, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but I have to decline given I'm behind in my own stuff lol. Looks cool though. 05:34:32 Thu

First of all, thanks a lot but that position belongs to Per. She's the head-honcho in terms of magic-y stuff around here. Secondly, I might look into that. I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the offer :P Super Kami Guru  (Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 05:37, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

Nine Elementals; Spare Positions?
As the heading indicates. Have any room in your Nine Elementals left? If so, which elements (assuming that's what you're going by) are available for use? And if there's room, may I make a member? Ashy (Welcome! ) 00:21, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'll take a position if you don't mind. Thanks! Ashy (Welcome! ) 00:33, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

I think I'll make a female. Ashy (Welcome! ) 00:37, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

If you'd like, I could potentially do the strongest female? Ashy (Welcome! ) 00:49, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, been trying to find some images for him. :P Ventus (RIDE THE WIND ) 00:49, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, no worries. It just looked like you hadn't planned much is all. <font color="#000080" face="Perpetua">Ashy (<font color="#4169E1" face="Perpetua">Welcome! ) 00:55, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. <font color="Orange" face="Verdana">Ventus (<font color="#4682B4" face="Georgia">RIDE THE WIND ) 01:10, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

I think I'll make my own. Thanks for the offer though. <font color="#000080" face="Perpetua">Ashy (<font color="#4169E1" face="Perpetua">Welcome! ) 01:12, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Yes. <font color="Orange" face="Verdana">Ventus (<font color="#4682B4" face="Georgia">RIDE THE WIND ) 01:25, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Idk about the name, it's the only one I could come up with. :P <font color="Orange" face="Verdana">Ventus (<font color="#4682B4" face="Georgia">RIDE THE WIND ) 01:41, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Twilight, I've been thinking. Is there anyway I can make Prime Decade my Elemental instead? <font color="Orange" face="Verdana">Ventus (<font color="#4682B4" face="Georgia">RIDE THE WIND ) 02:22, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

N.E
Yo Five, just setting up what I signed for. So I think I'm gonna make a lazy assassin called "Edward Hartmann" as one of your Nine Elementals. <font color="Crimson" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold"> <rb>Nameless Knight</rb><rp></rp><rt>名も無きん者騎士</rt><rp> </rp>  (<font color="Black" face="Algerian">SUMMON ME ) 02:24, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

No worries, thought it should be interesting. <font color="Crimson" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold"> <rb>Nameless Knight</rb><rp></rp><rt>名も無きん者騎士</rt><rp> </rp>  (<font color="Black" face="Algerian">SUMMON ME ) 02:37, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Hey man I only suggest this cause of two reasons. One I think an anime has an Edward Hartmann assassin or something similar and you know how crossover|copyright are, but I'm not sure. But because of how lazy he is going to be. Why not call his last name Hearth. A reflection to his at home relaxing mind set, the center of the home is a hearth. So he is the center of himself. But only a suggestion it's not a requirement. I rather like this character so far.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 02:46, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Now that's a damn coincidence, lol.

Mine's name, Edward has a lame origin. It comes from Twilight's Edward, because Jacob Lessio from the Spriggan 12 reminds me of Twilight's Jacob. Two assassins, why not.

And Hartmann actually means Hard One. Also, I don't think it's from an anime? But merely a fictional character? <font color="Crimson" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold"> <rb>Nameless Knight</rb><rp></rp><rt>名も無きん者騎士</rt><rp> </rp>  (<font color="Black" face="Algerian">SUMMON ME ) 02:55, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

I won't use Nein, that'd bring people back to Neinhart. The naming is ironical. Also, Ash said I should be fine as long as I stated my original intention of naming. Thanks for worrying tho'. <font color="Crimson" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold"> <rb>Nameless Knight</rb><rp></rp><rt>名も無きん者騎士</rt><rp> </rp>  (<font color="Black" face="Algerian">SUMMON ME ) 03:24, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

No offense that your writing is somewhat confusing but thx for worrying again. Fair enough, also lol :P <font color="Crimson" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold"> <rb>Nameless Knight</rb><rp></rp><rt>名も無きん者騎士</rt><rp> </rp>  (<font color="Black" face="Algerian">SUMMON ME ) 03:43, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, that justifies it. Also, so far only Shadow Magic. I'm off for now, nite. <font color="Crimson" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold"> <rb>Nameless Knight</rb><rp></rp><rt>名も無きん者騎士</rt><rp> </rp>  (<font color="Black" face="Algerian">SUMMON ME ) 03:57, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Again, no worries, lol. Thanks! <font color="Crimson" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold"> <rb>Nameless Knight</rb><rp></rp><rt>名も無きん者騎士</rt><rp> </rp>  (<font color="Black" face="Algerian">SUMMON ME ) 04:01, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

What Elementals do you have left? <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 07:52, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

What element is left then? <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 09:30, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Please do. I need a better clarification on how to go about this properly. 09:53, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Here are some that are free.


 * Weapon King


 * Inheritor Theory


 * Sacred Earth


 * Subjugator of Arts


 * Ocean King


 * 1000 Methods

I'll come up with more if you don't like these.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 10:12, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

I welcome the help but there is no need, thanks <font color="Crimson" face="Copperplate Gothic Bold"> <rb>Nameless Knight</rb><rp></rp><rt>名も無きん者騎士</rt><rp> </rp>  (<font color="Black" face="Algerian">SUMMON ME ) 23:18, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I think I got it. Arashi's two primary magic are Shinobi Art and Teleportation, while Requip is for weapons and Telepathy is for times when he need to contact the other Elementals. Now I just need to give him an epithet. <font color="Orange" face="Verdana">Ventus (<font color="#4682B4" face="Georgia">RIDE THE WIND ) 01:08, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

Aine Euryphresea is her name. She uses "Theoria" and "Ain Soph Aur", two very specific forms of Light Magic which I shall explain in detail later. <font color="#000080" face="Perpetua">Ashy (<font color="#4169E1" face="Perpetua">Welcome! ) 00:41, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

I'm glad to see that the Nine Elementals are making great progress! Seems you have 6, plus Lorelei who will be made soon I hope. But do you think you can make a page for the nine Elementals? Just so we know where we are ranked, and to show our strength as a collective? Basically kinda how the spriggan 12 have their own page and stuff. Just thought it would be cool so then we all know our standings and our nicknames. -Lady Komainu (talk) 14:47, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

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Hello. Do you perhaps have any spot left in the Nine Elementals? Zaregoto (talk) 01:54, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Ok. Thank you. Zaregoto (talk) 02:07, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Lorelei
I like the name. The image is a bit iffy for me. I don't see her as being fearsome, elegant, or even remotely commanding respect as the strongest elemental. A drunk was not what I imagined, especially after you said you wanted her to be better than Irene. Doesn't seem like the person who would command a prison of dangerous criminals. -Lady Komainu (talk) 04:22, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

So what do you think of Balsa from Moribito? She seems like she could be powerful. There are a lot of good gifs of her fighting with a spear too. -Lady Komainu (talk) 04:46, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

I like The pictures of the uniform, she seems like a good fit. -Lady Komainu (talk) 05:02, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Sure, why not? <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 18:58, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Heya TD5! Is there a spot left in your Nine Elementals? I would love to make a member, if you'd allow me. And if not, well that's okay lol. <font color="#00416A">Yuu (<font color="Cyan">Honey Badger Don't Care ) 20:44, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

I'm too bust right now to search for another image; that will have to do for now. <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 20:44, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Yo Twi, first I added the needed coding for you archive, just to make it look a little cleaner, hope you don't mind. Second I found a site that might really interest you, http://fantasynamegenerators.com/. Despite the name its got a shit load of stuff that would be extremely helpful to you. --<font color="#8B0000" face="Arial">Otaku-ō (<font color="#000080" face="Arial">Talk ) 23:10, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

For the first part, go ahead. For the second part, because of his personality he's very arrogant and not willing to accept someone more powerful than him, even if they are. You can say the person is and Yarrow will make attempts at eliminating him or something similar to that effect. <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 00:35, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

More or less, yes. <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 00:49, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Are you going to start Lorelei tonight too? --Lady Komainu (talk) 03:31, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

I'll think about it, I've been a bit busy lately. <font color="8B 00 00">Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 12:02, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

I generally prefer to have complete control over what I create with nothing predetermined except a name and location in collaboration efforts. <font color="8B 00 00">Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 14:43, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah that'd be fine. I've been revamping him anyways cause he's my first character and was needing it anyways. Although why would he be on the continent in the first place, if you don't mind my asking? --<font color="#8B0000" face="Arial">Otaku-ō (<font color="#000080" face="Arial">Talk ) 22:59, May 26, 2016 (UTC) I was going to work on her in a bit, so I will try and think of a good magic as her third. What is her personality going to be like? Also I saw your post on killers page mentioning the alliance, and if I were you I would start posting on the talk pages of those you want involved. This way they have time to think about if they like the idea or not, they can start asking members to participate (if they agree with your plan), and can ask questions that you can work out for when this story eventually starts. Basically just keep them in the loop. -Lady Komainu (talk) 00:34, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

If it's just a barrier with special properties, then make it a Barrier Magic spell or something uncategorized. Other than that, go ahead. <font color="8B 00 00">Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 01:39, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Honestly, just make it an uncategorized spell. A magic doesn't just do one thing like a project a single barrier. <font color="8B 00 00">Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 02:21, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

So I am too tired to work on Lorelei tonight, but I will hopefully put some stuff down for her personality and appearance tomorrow. But you are going to work on the pangaea of the world right? Because that doesnt seem like a magic article at all... I am assuming you are going to put some more detail in the description and then put some spells down. But perhaps Blood Magic would be good for her? Since she is a coldbooded killer and what not. Plus it would give her control over her prisoners if they act up. --Lady Komainu (talk) 03:20, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I'll start making details for Pangaea. Blood Magic huh, I think it can work. She is the greatest doctor in Aeternum. She is on par with Irminsul in this one subjects. But what makes her the greatest is she can do surgeries and has almost godlike knowledge of the human body. She can do things without Magic to her patients. Also she loves Alcohol more so than Baccuss or Cana. She can out drink them.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 03:55, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Hey TD5, can you give me a small summary for your Nine thing just so I know what I gotta cover? <font color="8B 00 00">Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 02:08, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Sure why not. But I should tell you that with those magics, they're each incredibly power as they're separate magics, not spells - being aspects of something found in reality. So yeah, since I've done that for my storyline, you gotta downplay it a bit so that you won't get into it with the admins later. <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 02:41, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Go ahead. Also do you have a name for the character I'm making or can I name them whatever? <font color="8B 00 00">Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 06:51, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

I would say third in power whilst second strongest. Here's the reason; Yarrow is constantly evolving machine who's been through hundreds, if not thousands of battles - all in an attempt to become the strongest. This would mean that, combat-wise, he would top Lorelei because he's more versatile of a fighter in this regard having much more experience than her. <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 14:03, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Never really cared about that stuff, figured you've must had your reasons for choosing the name. I just went along with it; anyways, I will add that suggestion about Yarrow to his trivia. That's a good one, fits perfectly for him :P <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 14:17, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

That would work pretty well actually. And I was going to work on the wire magic today. The main reason I gave that to her was because it can be used for stitching. It will basically be able to seal up any wound, even connecting limbs back with perfect connection of vessels and neurons (it can be infused with her ethernano to allow for such capabilities). It also gives her a bit more to work with in regards to combat. -Lady Komainu (talk) 16:05, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

I just wanna add in to something Ash mentioned on his page; if there are magics like Ain Soph Aur existing and there are experienced users like Aine Euryphresea walking around, then it becomes impossible to beat them due to them masterfully exploiting their powerful effects. So yeah, people like Aine can beat Yarrow if pushed far enough and utilize the full capacity of their given capabilities. <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 16:50, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Tenth Elemental
Yo Twilight, I have an idea that could work out. How about we create a tenth elemental. Y'know, like a secret member of the group that works behind the scenes of the main 9 and answers directly to Kladenets. Some of the members knows of his/her existence, but they don't show herself to them unless Kladenets wills it. Call it his "secret backup" of sorts, should the other nine were to somehow fall. <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 18:28, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

You think that you could forward this idea to Zare? This is something I suggested to him in order to get him affiliated with Kladenets in some way. This should work out with him if anything. <font color="#C0C0C0">Super Kami Guru  (<font color="#D2691E">Swiggity swass, I'm gonna violate 'dat ass! ) 19:10, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Seems fine to me. Do you want me to develop the idea (Zero Co., write about it) or you do by yourself? Zaregoto (talk) 19:23, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Ok. I'll write a preview and send to you later before publishing it. Zaregoto (talk) 19:41, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Here it is. I don't think we need a separated page to the Zero Co.; we can integrate it in either the Nine Elementals page as a subsection or in the Kingdom of Aeternum page.

''The Zero Corporation of Past, or Zero Co., is a secret group working directly under the command of the King of Aeternum. Each member is a former component of the Nine Elementals, demoted from their positions due to various reasons; be it a loss in an official match to be replaced by another person or self-retirement. They bestow power equal or superior to the current members of Nine Elementals, but are not embraced by their benefits, such as a particular army or social status. Their existence remains hidden and only Kladenets has knowledge of their existence, as himself is their leader. The main reason to the creation of this group is a safety measure when a member of the Nine Elementals becomes inapt to hold their position without a previously established replacement, allowing the Zero Co. members to regain their former position.'' Zaregoto (talk) 20:08, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, perhaps a similar to the one currently used by the Nine. Zaregoto (talk) 20:40, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

I'm only creating this because Alpha said it would be cool to have another member as an "undercover agent". I'll leave the conditions to joining to you since you gave the idea to create this group. Zaregoto (talk) 21:39, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Anyway, I think I'll post it in the Nine Elementals page, under the member category as "former members". I made some adjustments to the text to fit better. Read and tell me if you want to change anything and if I can publish it. Also, Brigid LeBlanc will be my Zero Co. member.

''The former members of the Nine Elementals that were demoted from their positions due to various reasons, be it a loss in an official match to be replaced by another person or self-retirement, compose a secret group working directly under the command of the King of Aeternum. The Zero Corporation of Past, or Zero Co. as they are called, bestow power equal or superior to the current members of the Nine Elementals, but are not embraced by their benefits, such as a particular army or social status. Their existence remains hidden and only Kladenets has knowledge of their identity, as himself is their leader. The main reason to the creation of this group is a safety measure when a member of the Nine Elementals becomes inapt to hold their position without a previously established replacement, allowing the Zero Co. members to regain their former position.'' Zaregoto (talk) 21:52, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Ranking
Alright TD5, I need to get something off my chest. Now I know you are the creator of this Nine Elemental group, but I find it very trivial and annoying that you are so intent on ranking everyone within the group. It actually makes me feel rather inadequate and belittled, as I am sure it does to some of the other people in the group. I understand that it can sometimes be fun to make up your own ranking of characters in the anime, but when you do it with something as personal as someone's own creation, feelings tend to arise (whether that be positive or negative). That is why they don't do the site wide Wizard Saints anymore. When you rank something essential to a character, like their genuine power, it becomes more of a competition as to who can write better to please the judge, rather than enjoying the process of making something new and unique to you. Sure if you want to rank them on silly things like the best arm wrestler, the best at rock-paper-scissors, or the best at Mario Kart, go ahead. But I find it injurious and petty when you continuously bombard us with comments and messages as to who the strongest mage is overall, reminding us of those who are on top and those who are on bottom. I just wanted to voice my opinion to you, you are free to take it how you will, but I needed to let you know how it was making me feel. --Lady Komainu (talk) 01:14, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

People do not argue who's character is the strongest, or are you seeing an all out war on the wiki that I am oblivious to?? If they want to test if their character is strong, they challenge each other in an RP, where a variety of circumstances will determine the victor. But that doesn't mean that person is stronger. Say you take the same two mages and put them in a different environment, the other could emerge victorious. Does that mean they're the strongest now? No. It is all circumstantial when it comes to strength. As I said before, giving your opinion on who is stronger just belittles the rest. Each person puts unique parts of their creativity into their character to make them the strongest they can be. And when you completely dismiss that effort and potential that they have, that can be hurtful. People don't need a rank to build their characters around. There are users on here who have made some amazing characters without knowing where they stand in the grand scheme of strength. I understand your intentions, but the perception of this, in my eyes, is highly unneeded and damaging. --Lady Komainu (talk) 02:24, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

FTF is different and very well regulated, that is why you haven't seen those dramatic things that you are talking about. I am just saying that all the users here, especially the ones in the Elementals, are very mature and wouldn't argue about strength in the first place. We are all content with having similar power levels and focusing on our own specialties that make us each unique. We don't need constant reminders of who you think is stronger than whom. I can say for a fact that I am not alone in this mentality, and I just wanted to bring it to your attention so you are aware of the effects it can have. --Lady Komainu (talk) 02:42, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

It wouldn't be the Black Art, but other than that, go ahead. <font color="8B 00 00">Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 23:41, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

It wouldn't be the Black Art, it'd be a Black Art. <font color="8B 00 00">Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 23:50, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

The Ninth Spot
Is the last spot of the Nine Elementals still reserved for Per? If not, can I make the ninth character? Jonny (HERE'S JONNY!) 10:55, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Okay then, I will, thanks. Jonny (HERE'S JONNY!) 18:02, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah that could probably work, like a drug that gives them magic powers. Are you telling me this cause you want me to make it? -Lady Komainu (talk) 19:58, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

So you don't want me to make it..? So you're going to? -Lady Komainu (talk) 20:08, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

Here you go. <font color="8B 00 00">Per  (This is my stage now!) (Still more~) 00:17, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Irminsul
What were you stuck with? I thought you had Alpha helping you out, no? <font color="#000080" face="Perpetua">Ashy (<font color="#4169E1" face="Perpetua">Welcome! ) 10:59, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

Well, I mean, honestly speaking, he sounds way too much like August at this point? Incredible magical power, incredible magical knowledge, etc. I know you want that to be his 'archetype' but...it seems kind of out of place? Personally I'd go with a route that he isn't magically talented and his incredible research in different magical arts gave him, not a massive power, but ability to control incredibly diverse magic types. <font color="#000080" face="Perpetua">Ashy (<font color="#4169E1" face="Perpetua">Welcome! ) 22:06, June 2, 2016 (UTC)