Talk:Ultimate Art/@comment-5635078-20150912090126/@comment-5635078-20150912110032

That is true, yet when written as "極" it means extreme or nadir or pole and of course "quindecillion " and "very". Goku on its own doesn't even come close to the world ultimate. The closest it comes to is "zenith". It really comes off as something that's at zenith, now while 'Zenith' is synonymous with optimum or pinnacle, its still not ultimate in a real world sense. It is only synonymous when you're using it as a noun. As an adjective, it is really used to define degree or height/length. The word "final" is still closer to the real meaning of ultimate. That's just me.