Board Thread:Advice from Ashy, the "Competent Zeref."/@comment-30807545-20161013104945/@comment-30807545-20161013115630

But..... isn't manipulating souls, something that Black Magic does (i.e. Seith Magic), basically playing around with life and death? Also, it's never confirmed that Zeref himself created the Black Arts, but merely used them by creating off-shoots. Yeah, so there could've been wizards existing before Zeref that used the Black Arts, but Hiro tends to be vague about these things.